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- From: floh@mkmk.in-chemnitz.de (Andre Weissflog)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.introduction,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
- Subject: Re: What I want from new Workbench
- Message-ID: <VX8dy*3H0@mkmk.in-chemnitz.de>
- Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 00:16:57 CET
- Reply-To: floh@mkmk.in-chemnitz.de
- References: <2477.6641T698T2915@actcom.co.il>
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- In article <2477.6641T698T2915@actcom.co.il>, Ariel Magnum writes:
-
- > but with this lame OS which needs so much patching to make it usable by
- ^^^^^^^
- Wait a minute, the OS is great, it's just the Workbench, and
- some of the prefs editors that suck (more or less). Workbench
- is just an application.
-
- > todays standarts.Therefor I have compiled a wishlist of OS4 (3.2?) features :
- >
- > 1. Workbench Multithreaded - now im not sure everyone knows what that means
- > but adding child tasks to open window so that we may engage wb while opening
- > a drawer , letting it close after launching a program and not making the
- > menu stop wb isnt really too much to ask is it?
-
- Definitely required. However, the real problem is that one can't
- continue when the WB is copying files around.
-
- > 2. Workbench Arexx port - For playing sounds (UDP,MSD), managing Commdities,
- > launching programs , and managing public screens.
-
- Yes, but: playing sounds ? No. Those who want it can use a
- commodity.
- Managing Commodities is the job of Exchange, not WB.
- Managing public screens isn't the job of the WB either, IMHO.
-
- Just OPEN, CLOSE, QUIT, UPDATE, VIEW/SHOW_AS, COPY, DELETE,
- MOVE(!), and perhaps half a dozen other commands would suffice.
-
- > 3. Ability to edit menu without a hack that destoyes many others (toolsdeamon)
-
- I like it the way GoldEd does it: offer a set of "kernel
- commands", and let the user build the menus and hotkeys from it,
- and make the same commands available through ARexx.
-
- > 4. NewIcons patch to be implimented.
-
- IMHO No.
-
- > 5. Make Wb open on a RTG public screen.
-
- RTG is irrelevant for an Intuition application like the Workbench is.
- Better: Let the user open as many Worbenches as he wants on any
- public screen.
-
- > 6. Impliment Font densetive gui routines preferably MUI.I know its painfully
- > slow at times but perhaps written in assembler and using RTG will become
- > faster.A tottaly configurable GUI engine could push the Amiga far ahead
- > of its competitiors.I must say that most gadgtools guis look very bad
- > best examples are the preferences programs.
-
- Arguable (MUI), more font sensitivity would be fine however, especially
- in the prefs editors.
-
- > 7. Impliment Datatypes more into the workbench so that programs like deficons
- > would not be needed.Also this will cut back on executable code.All object
- > loading should be done via datatypes.Perhaps object saving as well.
-
- How do you define 'object'?
-
- > 8. Making mutitasking a bit smarter - Settaskpre is definetly not idiot
- > proof.
-
- What's wrong with settaskpri?
-
- > 9. Compiling the ROMs to varius CPU's.
-
- Too much hassle IMHO (they should however compile
- with 020 optimzation).
-
- > 10. Text And image clipping from all windows.
-
- If you mean Cut-Copy-Paste with "clipping"... there are
- two ways, either the application provides support for it
- (like text editors, etc.) or a global solution is used,
- like PowerSnap, that works nearly everywhere. Since this
- is a religious issue, this should be left to commodities,
- so every user can choose whether he wants it or not.
-
- > 11. A format command that works (how lame!)
-
- What's wrong with the current one?
-
- > 12. Improve locale so that catclogs wont need to be compiled.
-
- ...or provide an easy to use catalogue creator.
-
- > 13. providing CyberGfx with WB with support for AGA and fast(!) chunky to
- > planaar conversion.
-
- I'd rather see RTG implemented as it was once planned instead
- of CGX.
-
- > 14. Distribute Java with the OS , along with Arexx.
- >
- Hmm...
-
- My additional wishes for WB improvement:
-
- 1) Explicit Move and Copy through drag & drop + qualifier.
- 2) WB windows updating automatically their contents
- (changing file sizes, changes that have
- been done by cli commands etc...).
- 3) Smarter WB windows, especially the list view mode.
- 4) More efficient file system navigation like keeping
- in the same window, when opening a drawer with
- doubleclick + hotkey. A 'close-and-up-to-parent'
- qualifier etc.
- 5) Make the ASL requester a Workbench Window object
- and vice versa (so, whenever an ASL requester
- is opened, basically a new Workbench is launched,
- possibly in "One Window Mode", and with "Listview Mode"
- turned on. The default mode attributes for ASL-WB-Windows
- should be preferences settings.
- That way, delete, makedir, rename etc... would
- be automatically supported in ASL requesters
- (as well as icon view if wanted).
-
- > Im sure you'l agree such an OS will not have to prove itself and would
- > graetly improve the machines usability.
- >
- I think everybody agrees that the Workbench needs an update.
-
- Bye,
- -Floh
-
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